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New Hope Role Plays with Dr. Ken France

Dr. Bill Gaultiere
(714) 971-4213

Dr. Ken France is one of our New Hope Counselor Mentors who offers feedback to New Hope Counselors. Ken is a Psychologist and has been teaching basic counseling to college students for many years. He is very insightful and is skilled at using role plays to teach active listening skills.

In his feedback to New Hope counselors he's caught some of us getting off track from our active listening by doing things like:

  1. Giving advice. (Even if they accept it to please you, they aren't likely to follow it.) It's best if they come up with their own ideas and you reinforce these. Any options you suggest should be offered tentatively and only after you've spent sufficient time understanding and connecting.
  2. Asking closed-ended questions (that can be answered with a "yes" or a "no"). Better to draw out people's feelings with open questions like, "How do you feel about that?"
  3. Directing the conversation away from the caller's/chatter's primary need. Give people the opportunity to verbalize their struggle and their feelings. The only times to direct a counseling call are: (1) if callers/chatters are lost then direct then to expressing their feelings, (2) if callers/chatter are being inappropriate in some way and you need to set boundaries.
  4. Using extremely negative or passive words like "helpless," "hopeless," and "out of control" in our feeling reflections. Even if that's what they're feeling we want to be careful about reinforcing this.
  5. Using redundant words/phrases when reflecting feelings. If you've already identified that someone feels "discouraged" then use slightly different words (like "depressed" or "overwhelmed") in subsequent responses to encourage further exploration.

Here are two role plays in which the counselor sticks to active listening. Notice how smooth the conversations are and the good connecting that's happening! For readability, the caller's dialogue is in italics, counselor in normal, and Ken's in CAPS.

Role Play #1:

Chatter: Three months ago my wife left me. She said that she no longer loved me and that she did not want to be married. She is now with another man. We have a precious 17 month old son, Isaac, who unless God intervenes will not have the benefit of growing up with his mommy and daddy together. I love Nicole will all that I have and I am trying to forgive her. I know that I can and pray that God will do whatever it takes to bring her back to Himself and then back to me. I am battling depression also

Counselor: Welcome to New Hope.  I understand you are going through a very traumatic time.

ACCURATE REFLECTION

Chatter: Yes, I am very lonely but I do have a lot of Christian friends who are helping me. There are times that the pain is almost unbearable

Counselor: So you are hurting very much.

GOOD FEELING REFLECTION

Chatter: I know that God does not allow suffering without a purpose but He seems so silent right now and I feel my frustation building up because He does not seem to be doing anything

Counselor: It sounds like you are feeling that God is leaving you to struggle alone.

EXCELLENT REFLECTION OF THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS

Chatter: I do not want to lose hope. I want to have my family restored but more than that I want to be changed into the man that God designed me to be

Counselor: You want to be a better man...

GOOD REFLECTION, NICE POSITIVE FOCUS

Chatter: I am diligently reading the Scriptures and devoting myself to prayer. I am also going to a professional counselor to deal with some issues of my past

Counselor: Tell me what you want God to change...

EXCELLENT FORWARD FOCUSING PROBE

Chatter: I don't want to feel so much pain.  I am also trying each day to give all my feeling and pain to the Lord and trusting that He is dealing with both Nicole and I. I am also trying to concentrate on being the best daddy I can be for Isaac but my heart breaks for him

Counselor: Please tell me more about what issues you talked to your counselor about.

OK PROBE

Chatter: I am trying not to get so caught up in my feelings and let go of the past and get on with my life but at the same time remain hopeful that God will do a miracle in this otherwise hopeless and impossible situation

Counselor: So you are trying to stay focused on the present and want to deal with that now...

VERY GOOD REFLECTION

VERY NICELY DONE.  LET'S STOP ROLE PLAYING.  GIVE ME A MINUTE AND I WILL GO BACK AND ADD COMMENTS.


Counselor: Ok, thanks...  I look forward to the comments!

Role Play #2:

Chatter: How can I make myself be happy and normal? I need help getting out of this depression

Counselor: Welcome to New Hope! It sounds like you feel like you don't fit in...

GOOD REFLECTION

Chatter: Yes definately

Counselor: Tell me how you would like to be more like others...

GOOD PROBE

Chatter: I want to be happy and I want people to like me for being me. I'm tired of people talking about me when they don't know me.

Counselor: I sense that you are feeling misunderstood.

VERY GOOD REFLECTION

Chatter: I've been a loner all my life

Counselor: It sounds like you always feel like you are on the outside looking in.

NICELY PHRASED REFLECTION

Chatter: My husband loves me very much I know there are people who like me but I never really know for sure if they like me. There is a little voice telling i'm not worth it.

Counelor: Something inside you is making you doubt that you are capable of being loved.

GOOD REFLECTION

Chatter: I allow myself to get close then some bad happens

Counselor: That must make you fearful of having strong feelings for others.

GOOD REFLECTION. THOUGH IT'S BETTER NOT TO USE THE PHRASE "MAKES YOU," AS IT IMPLIES THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW THE CHATTER FEELS.

 
     
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